Need help installing SATA HD

[STONE]

OK so I put the HD in installed it in the case.

The jumper setting says for a slave disk that no jumper is required.
fired up computer went into bios, bios sees it and knwos its size.
shows up in device manager when in windows. so windows sees it.
I go to computer manager and disc manager to partition and format....and its not there......

Im a total noob at this so can someone help me? Everything I know to look for seems to be right.

Thanks

[supercoe]

what motherboard do you have? make sure the sata drivers are installed

[DeFlankoDesigns]

are you running a raid?


if so you cant partition a raid...lol

thats liek antenuating an amp....

or putting on sun screen to be in the shade...

[STONE]

Deflanko,
I dont even know what a raid is.. lol. All I know is I have another HD and a SATA wire... and I plugged it into the second SATA connector on my Mobo..... is that wrong?
So here is my set up:
I have one 80gig SATA HD that has all my OS and other progs on it Then I have a 250gig Eide that is holding my pics, vids, dvds etc... Cant I just hook this 160gig up to the second sata "port" (is that the right term?) on the HD?

*I do know a raid has something to do with controlling multiple hard drives.

[gsxcorey]

stone muscles and computers don't mix, you're out of your realm. take it to a junior high school and let some kid with brains do it for you j/k :D :ride

[daotan]

i have never installed an SATA drive, do the connectors have plugs for a primary and secondary just like ide? if yes then:

"I plugged it into the second SATA connector on my Mobo..... is that wrong?"
no its not wrong but if you are putting a single drive on the free connector you might wanna try it as master not slave, sometimes it works both ways in ide but not always

"Cant I just hook this 160gig up to the second sata "port" (is that the right term?) on the HD?"
i'm going to assume you meant '2nd sata port on the cable' not HD, you should set the new one to slave and then check the existing HD (master) and make sure it is jumpered correctly, some drives have a 'single HD no slave' jumper setting and if you are adding a drive to that same cable then you need to set the existing drive to the 'master HD w/ slave' jumper setting

good luck foo!

[korrupt1]

i have never installed an SATA drive, do the connectors have plugs for a primary and secondary just like ide? if yes then:

"I plugged it into the second SATA connector on my Mobo..... is that wrong?"
no its not wrong but if you are putting a single drive on the free connector you might wanna try it as master not slave, sometimes it works both ways in ide but not always

"Cant I just hook this 160gig up to the second sata "port" (is that the right term?) on the HD?"
i'm going to assume you meant '2nd sata port on the cable' not HD, you should set the new one to slave and then check the existing HD (master) and make sure it is jumpered correctly, some drives have a 'single HD no slave' jumper setting and if you are adding a drive to that same cable then you need to set the existing drive to the 'master HD w/ slave' jumper setting

good luck foo!


yaa...it still has to be jumpered....other wise it wont know what the hell it is.....make you new drive(160 gig)the slve and restart...bet it works

[STONE]

Ok this is how its set up:

80gig Sata Drive: MASTER
250gig EIDE drive: SLAVE
160gig SATA DRIVE: no jumper (manual says this is default for SLAVE)

THe device managers sees it and says the size and model but the damn disc manager doesn't see it!

[fjorn]

You have drivers installed?


I'm not familiar with SATA, but I thought it would be similar to IDE where you need a master and a slave. If there's no other devices on the channel, then it must be a master.


Unless of course it's like SCSI, then they need ID numbers for the chain.

[Lord_Phat]

if you can see it in bios, the os should see it

i seem to remember there being issues with windows versions seeing drives over 127gb

perhaps chucking on the latest service pack will help you out...

what flavour of windows are you running? :nannas

[STONE]

I have XP pro with SP2....

I dont know what a channel is... I'll try making it a master to see what happens.... but isn't it set right if bios sees it???

[Lord_Phat]

xp and sp2, the hdd should work

i blame gw bush :nannas

[R1Budha]

xp and sp2, the hdd should work

i blame gw bush :nannasactually it may not......

i had this problem just recently....

the hdd came with a disk that has the proper drivers..................


also depending on the computer's bios, you may need to actually enable the SATA ports.
it may still register it, but it does not necessarily make it live.
Dell does that for some stupid reason....

[Lord_Phat]

Dell does that for some stupid reason....

dell and stupid in the same sentence?! :cool :nannas

[R1Budha]

Dell does that for some stupid reason....

dell and stupid in the same sentence?! :cool :nannasah but i get same day repair service if i need it...

and i got so many they cant keep track anymore.....


so if anything fails, i get new....

hehehe

[R1Lover]

Don't be picking on Dell........... I love them.... :fact :mrgreen:

[R1Budha]

Don't be picking on Dell........... I love them.... :fact :mrgreen:so do i................

i just got a dual proc 3.0 xeon with 2 gigs of ram, 160gb raided drives,rack rails, all in a 1u case for $2500.00

then bought additional 6 gigs of ram for another $600.....


nice tight little package there.....


hehe

[DeFlankoDesigns]

well ok.. its liek this...


when you RAID two drives they become one... ie im my case.. i got two SATA 120 gig drives RAID 0... that means these two drives are now one @ 240 gig...


now when you RAID you CAN NOT partition.. its contradiciting the RAID... (or at least i havent found a way to do so.. and i doubt seriosuly that you cant..)

so either you missed a step in the master slave deal.. or somthgin else..

[R1Lover]

Don't be picking on Dell........... I love them.... :fact :mrgreen:so do i................

i just got a dual proc 3.0 xeon with 2 gigs of ram, 160gb raided drives,rack rails, all in a 1u case for $2500.00

then bought additional 6 gigs of ram for another $600.....


nice tight little package there.....


hehe


That's a sweet deal Bro..............

I needed to get one of the owners a new monitor..... I shopped for a few weeks and I ended up getting her a 24" wide screen packaged with a new system for me... :mrgreen: I ended up getting a pretty good deal. I paid 1976.00 for the below goodies....

24 IN (24.0 IN VIS.) 2405FPW,DIM,P

DIM 9100,P4, 630 (3.0GHZ),HT,2MB
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128MB ATI HYPER MEM PCI-E X16 X300SE,DIM
48X CD-RW/ 16X DVD+/-RW,DIM,P
IEEE 1394A ADAPTER
DVI-VGA ADAPTER,2 CRTS WITH VIDEO CARD
160GB SERIAL ATA,7200 RPM,DIM,P

FSM-4101 Static Wall Mount for Dell W300 - tv mount

300 GB 7200 RPM OneTouch II FireWire/iLI USB2.0 firewire Hard drive

[R1Lover]

Here is a good site for explaining the basics of RAID and how it works........

http://www.sohoconsult.ch/raid/raid1.html

[rsta]

Sata drives do not use master and slave. So i am not sure what you are saying, yes you can partition a hardware raid. windows would see the 2, 3 or more drives as 1 drive, "well depending what raid array type you have". you would then partition the drive when you installed windows. Or you could also use partition magic after windows is installed, which i dont recommend unless you know what you are doing.

Does disk manager see it at all? if so right click on the disk and choose initialize disk. Here is a pic i dont have the option to initialize because mine already is.
What model of harddrive do you have? pc? if it is a clone what is the motherboard?
Hope this makes some kind of sense, ive had a few vodkas tonite )
BTW dell sucks, so does every other PPOS "propietary peice of shit" )~ want a real machine build your own or get this one

http://digitalintelligence.com/products/fred/

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Pentium 4 Motherboard with Intel Alderwood 925X Chipset
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1 GB DDR2-533 Dual Channel Memory (Upgradeable on Request)
ATI Radeon X700 XT PCI-Express Video Card with RGB and DVI Outputs (128MB) and dual monitor support
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2 port (4 Drives) Auxiliary DMA 33/66/100 Parallel ATA (IDE) Controller (RAID Capable)
4 port (4 Drives) Serial ATA (SATA) Controller (RAID Capable)
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Two 250Gb Ultra DMA/100 EIDE Hard Drives (Upgradeable on Request)
Shock-Mounted Parallel IDE Removable Drive Bays (3)
Shock Mounted Serial ATA (SATA) Removable Hard Drive Bays (2)
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[R1Lover]

BTW dell sucks, (and so do I)~ want a real machine build your own or get this one

http://digitalintelligence.com/products/fred/



If you wamt to pay 6,000.00 for a single pc - go ahead..... :hung :hung :hung

[rsta]

I may suck cuz i have had to work on too many dells, but i would never put 2500 into a dell for personal use. And that 6K is for alot more than what i listed, And no i would never spend 6k on any pc, i would build my own, but i had my work by me 4 of those for me and my team and will be getting more, . Wasnt trying to argue do what ya want. I was just trying to offer some help and boast the pc i use at work,
enjoy

[STONE]

Thanks for all the help guys but thist POS still doesn't work...

Here MAYBE this will help:

[STONE]

and STFU about the stoneypants thing... nickname from a girlfriend, my cousin (who set up my computer) overheard her call me that. My computer is registered to the same name....

[R1Budha]

Dell's Suck?
Really?

i guess the 100 or so i have in the back room and out in the workplace must really be bad then.......

oh wait lets see....so far in all those computers i've had exactly what go wrong in 4 years........


ummmmm



well lets see my $250 personal server had a bad CDROM drive which they shipped me a new one without any questions overnight and paid to ship the old one back......

hmmm


yeah they suck alright.........



and the one i quoted is a server not a workstation.....

[gsxcorey]

stone: i normally don't reply to these as i can get by with hardware, but i'm not great at. For this though i do know the solution since youv'e tried so much. KICK IT. I always do that after a few tries! once it actually fixed it...no shit. probably something loose, but after that i'll keep up the tradition.

i actually need a nicer monitor. anyone wanna hook me up?

[daotan]

send that shit to me, i'll fix it!! j/k did you get it working?

Dell is the only game in town for large scale deployment, servers etc (although HP/Compaq servers are samn good), they have a support structure that can't be beat

but if you want a gaming machine/porn workstation/HTPC they suck

[R1Budha]

send that shit to me, i'll fix it!! j/k did you get it working?

Dell is the only game in town for large scale deployment, servers etc (although HP/Compaq servers are samn good), they have a support structure that can't be beat

but if you want a gaming machine/porn workstation/HTPC they suckhomebuilt (if you have the knowledge and KNOW thjat your selected components will work together properlY) will always beat purchased.....

[korrupt1]

send that shit to me, i'll fix it!! j/k did you get it working?

Dell is the only game in town for large scale deployment, servers etc (although HP/Compaq servers are samn good), they have a support structure that can't be beat

but if you want a gaming machine/porn workstation/HTPC they suck


gaming machine to me = alienware.

fuckers can build some intense shit....but speeeeeeeendy

[R1Budha]

send that shit to me, i'll fix it!! j/k did you get it working?

Dell is the only game in town for large scale deployment, servers etc (although HP/Compaq servers are samn good), they have a support structure that can't be beat

but if you want a gaming machine/porn workstation/HTPC they suck


gaming machine to me = alienware.

fuckers can build some intense shit....but speeeeeeeendy
actually the Dell XPS is very competitive with Alienware and for the most part uses the same hardware.....

I know i have one of each....

[korrupt1]

send that shit to me, i'll fix it!! j/k did you get it working?

Dell is the only game in town for large scale deployment, servers etc (although HP/Compaq servers are samn good), they have a support structure that can't be beat

but if you want a gaming machine/porn workstation/HTPC they suck


gaming machine to me = alienware.

fuckers can build some intense shit....but speeeeeeeendy
actually the Dell XPS is very competitive with Alienware and for the most part uses the same hardware.....

I know i have one of each....

:pissed



showoff

:laugh

[STONE]

:jacked come on fuckers help me out here.

[R1Budha]

send that shit to me, i'll fix it!! j/k did you get it working?

Dell is the only game in town for large scale deployment, servers etc (although HP/Compaq servers are samn good), they have a support structure that can't be beat

but if you want a gaming machine/porn workstation/HTPC they suck


gaming machine to me = alienware.

fuckers can build some intense shit....but speeeeeeeendy
actually the Dell XPS is very competitive with Alienware and for the most part uses the same hardware.....

I know i have one of each....

:pissed



showoff

:laughI'm merely "babysitting" the Alienware right now.....


The XPS is mine and i bought it nearly three years ago now.......

and i got it for half of list, so i'll keep it for a while......

[daotan]

slcmuffinboi you lucky bastard, i just happen to buy an SATA drive today, and in the manual it says:

"Insert configuration CD. Restart computer. Follow the instructions on screen to setup the drive"

so the moral of the story is RTFM!!!!! did you ever get yours working?

[R1Lover]

slcmuffinboi you lucky bastard, i just happen to buy an SATA drive today, and in the manual it says:

"Insert configuration CD. Restart computer. Follow the instructions on screen to setup the drive"

so the moral of the story is RTFM!!!!! did you ever get yours working?

lol :twisted:

[STONE]

Hey ding dong!! I dont have a FM!!! or a FCD! maybe I should find one. stupid manuals.

[daotan]

well how about going to the manufacturer website and seeing if they have the FM in PDF and a boot image of thier config CD/floppy? how about telling us what manufacturer the HD is? how bout the model? how bout any helpful information that would help us help you!!!!!
:plunge

[STONE]

K,
I went to the site and go tthe ISO file and I used magic Iso maker to create a boot CD. I think... haha

So now I just boot from the CD right??

To do this I go into bios and change the boot sequence right?

haha thanks guys!