whata pain in the arse!!!!!

[korrupt1]

spent half the damn day trying to figure out why my cable woudnt see my comp down on my end of house........good signal and all....but then connected and added wallplates and it wouldnt see it.

wound up having to connect all 8 wires through the cat5 and for whatever reason it worked....which is really weird cuz we ran a new line for my moms comp and hers is conected with same cable line..buut only 4 wires(2 pair) and she is showing hi speed.

oh well....least I am back with my comp


:8) which makes me really happy

[rinn]

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. :hooray :hooray :hooray

[korrupt1]

yaaaa....can go back in chat again


hehehehe

[rinn]

and browse/save porn...

[fjorn]

You need to have the wiring correct. In some cases you could get by with just 4 wires, but you lose part of your signal. I've run over 50 network cables in my house over the past few years, and have only had one bad. Why? Because I follow the correct wiring procedure when putting ends on my cables.

Here's a tutorial on how to do twisted pair (rj45). While this is centered on 10, it is the same for 100 and 1000.

http://www.netspec.com/helpdesk/wiredoc.html

[gsxcorey]

50 cables? is your house made out of wires?

[fjorn]

I'm completely remodeling our house. That means completely emptying the room down to the studs, rewiring, new insulation, windows, sheet rock, etc. While I have the walls open, I'm routing Cat-5e and coaxial while I'm rewiring the electrical.

Of the rooms, there are at least two data connections in almost every room. On top of that, I make each patch cable from wall jack to system, as well as the servers in my rack. On top of that, there are some other network devices on the lan.

I've made literally hundreds of cables over the years.

[korrupt1]

I'm completely remodeling our house. That means completely emptying the room down to the studs, rewiring, new insulation, windows, sheet rock, etc. While I have the walls open, I'm routing Cat-5e and coaxial while I'm rewiring the electrical.

Of the rooms, there are at least two data connections in almost every room. On top of that, I make each patch cable from wall jack to system, as well as the servers in my rack. On top of that, there are some other network devices on the lan.

I've made literally hundreds of cables over the years.


when I get my new joint built....I plan on doing that very thing after the construction crew rolls home....so I dont have to pay some idiot electrician to do the same things...and I save the $$

I want my new house so wired it will make you sick to look at


found some 12 joint wall plates...should fit the bill.

I dont get the wiring though why it just suddenly worked....I had toners on and everything...signal carriers going...but it would only blink either 2 or 3 on signal line depending on whether you went through A or B class.

then connected all 8 and presto! it worked....my dad was in communications for years (27 to be exact)and he was just as confused

but hey...it works now

thats whos gonna help me wire my house up...pops....he has gonna really nerdy with all the technology.

Me being the son I am I gave him my old sony Vaio desktop(its like a year old)because he is being so cool to me right now

[Steve05R1]

Hey Fjorn take some pics.....

[fjorn]

Of the remodeling or wiring, or ????

[DeFlankoDesigns]

the reason there is a wireing sheme is because of cross talk... each pair of wires in cat5... has a certian ammount of twists ... liek orange and blue pair are pritty close to alot of twists, and brown and green has usually less..


the reason... more twists between the wires the less cross talk... which is simply jsut information electromagnetticly transferring to the other wires... this happens alot when you dont do the pin outs right in wall plates or connectors...


like the toehr day one of my fiances friends who goes to ITT tech.. (i hate this smart ass, thinks he knwos everything but i end up fixing all of his shit..) and he brought over this cat 5.. "yeah man it works.."

i was having time out hits form my laptop to my router... i was liek wtf...


it was a 10ft jumper..


i looked at the pins.. O,B,G,Br,OW,BW,GW,BrW

i slapped the shit outta him..

[Steve05R1]

Of the remodeling or wiring, or ????
remodeling and wiring...

[fjorn]

the reason there is a wireing sheme is because of cross talk... each pair of wires in cat5... has a certian ammount of twists ... liek orange and blue pair are pritty close to alot of twists, and brown and green has usually less..


the reason... more twists between the wires the less cross talk... which is simply jsut information electromagnetticly transferring to the other wires... this happens alot when you dont do the pin outs right in wall plates or connectors...
.


The reason why it happens more often with wall plates and such is that people who don't know tend to unravel a lot of wiring. Or, they don't pay attention to the A/B wiring schemas. I have only the least amount of with possible untwisted to do my wall plates. Also, I typically follow the "A" wiring schema. There is no difference between type A or type B wiring. Only that you need both ends the same for straight thru, or opposite ends for a crossover.

[korrupt1]

the reason there is a wireing sheme is because of cross talk... each pair of wires in cat5... has a certian ammount of twists ... liek orange and blue pair are pritty close to alot of twists, and brown and green has usually less..


the reason... more twists between the wires the less cross talk... which is simply jsut information electromagnetticly transferring to the other wires... this happens alot when you dont do the pin outs right in wall plates or connectors...


like the toehr day one of my fiances friends who goes to ITT tech.. (i hate this smart ass, thinks he knwos everything but i end up fixing all of his shit..) and he brought over this cat 5.. "yeah man it works.."

i was having time out hits form my laptop to my router... i was liek wtf...


it was a 10ft jumper..


i looked at the pins.. O,B,G,Br,OW,BW,GW,BrW

i slapped the shit outta him..


yea...I hooked org/wht-org and blu/wht-blu up and it wouldnt talk....so I added the grn and brwn....good to go...seemed weird to me all in all.

I know how the twisted pair works and how to end in connectors and wether to use the A or B apps....just seemed odd that it wouldnt work without all them wires routed in.....in theory for Hi Speed...you realy only use orange and blue

this felt like me :comperror

[DeFlankoDesigns]

hi speed what.. dsl!?

[DeFlankoDesigns]

if so what kind!?


CDSL = Consumer DSL (A.K.A. DSL-lite - lower speeds than ADSL - I don't expect to see this offered by many providers.)
HDSL = High-bit-rate DSL (Full 1.5 Mbps in both directions - requires two wire pairs - Not for residential use.)
HDSL-2 = Newer version of HDSL (Full 1.5 Mbps in both directions using only one pair - Not for residential use.)
IDSL = ISDN-Like DSL (Version of SDSL operating at 144 Kbps to transport a ISDN BRI - 2 64K B-chnl + 1 16K D-chnl)
RADSL = Rate-Adaptive DSL (Transmit and receive speeds vary with application and capacity of the copper path - Not for residential use.)
SDSL = Symmetric DSL (1.5 Mbps in both directions for limited distance, normally operated at 768 Kbps or lower - Not for residential use.)
VDSL = Very High Speed DSL (Short copper tail for fiber optic service with speeds up to 52 Mbps - Not for residential use.)

[korrupt1]

cable....fastest they will let us get without heaing for like a T1 or T3 line


and I sure in the hell aint paying for that

[fjorn]

I've got 7Mbps DSL. :hooray

As to wiring, if all you're connecting is the router to the phone jack, then yes technically it's only two wires. However, if you're routing wires between systems, you need all 8.