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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-12-2006, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
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straps

don't use them unless you need them and they are for PULLING nothing more.

saw a guy using them doing the squat. if that guy got in trouble his neck is now attached to the bar via straps and i'd have to go backwards w/ 300lbs on a bar just to have my neck follow it down and be headed down when the bar hits the floor and begins it's travel/bounce back up into my neck!

use straps, belt, etc when you need them and are lifting heavy...till then let your body do the balancing and gripping...it's good for the body


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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-12-2006, 04:11 PM
 
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Well said. However, I never use straps.
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I have to agree/disagree.
"Dont use them unless you have to" I agree

"pulling, nothing more" Gotta disagree. If you dont need them then no point in using them and yes squats is retarded. But they do come in handly in a lot of movements.
I use them for almost all bicep movements, back, Shrugs, Shoulder raises. Yeah they are a crutch and if you're training for a meet where you cant use them then dont use them until you have to.

I use them because my hands are constanly sore and the the muscle between my thumb and pointer finger gets so thick that its hard to use my hands for delicate things. I really couldn't care less about having "Buff" hands.

Bottom line: use straps if its going to hamper working other muscles.

*Straps dont negatively effect forearm development.
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i use them also in shrugs, etc. Sometimes im lifting soo heavy that my grip wont hold for a whole set. But why in the world would you use them for squat lol.
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stone everything you used them for is a "pulling" movement you dork! that's what i'm saying, but when i see people using them for "pushing' that's stupid. like bench LOL


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stone everything you used them for is a "pulling" movement you dork! that's what i'm saying, but when i see people using them for "pushing' that's stupid. like bench LOL
i use them for dumbell shoulder presses too. Simply because they help me have more control when picking up the dumbells off the rack/ and hoisting them and setting them down... I'm no Stone, but shoulder presses with 100lb bells requires control


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if you're sitting at 90 degrees and doing a full shoulderpress w/ 100lb bells you're much more of a man then i am. i'm assuming not too far from stone, unless you're talking about incline bench, then that's diff....but sitting at 90degrees and doing shoulder presses w/ 100lb bells...i wish. most i was up to was like 80lbs at 10 reps


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lateral raises aren't pulling haha.

Knee dragger yeah I agree If I was doing it alone I'd probalby use straps for a few more things. I HATE getting heavy dumbells up to do mil. press.

Another thing to keep in mind is confidence plays a huge roll in how you perform. If you feel more comfortable using your straps for something the do it. I dont think its going to hurt you to use them. I'd be willing to say your mental state is 25% of how strong you are on any given lift. I know some days I feel like I can kick the 150's around like little rocks but some days the 50's feel ilke my arm is going to rip off.
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Another thing to keep in mind is confidence plays a huge roll in how you perform. If you feel more comfortable using your straps for something the do it. I dont think its going to hurt you to use them. I'd be willing to say your mental state is 25% of how strong you are on any given lift. I know some days I feel like I can kick the 150's around like little rocks but some days the 50's feel ilke my arm is going to rip off.
yes! Its mental....alot of it! Besides, i work out alone (which sucks btw) so I need all the "assistance" I can get. The most gains I have ever made were when I had a steady workout buddy that was much stronger than I was to push me.... For now, I'll have to stick with what I got.

Corey: yes those are 100's sitting at 90 degrees... On a good day I'm good for 10 to 12 (with a spot for the last 3 or so).


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forgot to add, I use straps in the bedroom too. Sometimes I have to lock my grip in tight


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Kneedragger,
Try military press by doing one arm at a time. start with both arms at the starting position (dumbells just hovering over your shoulder, not resting on them haha im the king of cheating by resting them on my shoulder)
Then just lift one at a time. I really think it lets you feel it more.
As you get stronger start doing military presses deeper into the workout so you can use lighter weights. Safer than throwing up 100lbs in each hand. I like to do them like 6 sets into a workout and I use 80's usually. NIce and slow really tear up the shoulder while being easier on the joints.
For heavy heavy stuff I like the smith press (especially when you're alone. you can set the catch bars and its relatively safe.

A cool lift for shoulders a buddy showed me is set a bench (no back) under the smith machine and sit on it and do military press so you have to keep yoru back straight. yeah its good for your core strength but it KILLLS your shoulders. very very hard. I just use 45's on each side. and its plenty.
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straps in the bedroom lol thats funny. What do you wrap them around? Pigtails?

thats kinda hot... Pond and I need to talk.
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