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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-27-2006, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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So I'm in the gym today... back and bi's today. BTW, i took Stones advice and tried backing off of the weight some and really concentrating during the reps...it felt good!

Anyways, I'm looking around and there are like 5 "trainers" working out clients while I'm working out. 1 trainer is a pretty big mo-fo, but the others are barely sub-par looking body wise. I'm wondering how they can sell a training routine to anyone looking like crap? I'm not saying I'm all buffed out, but man those dudes were looking pretty lousy.

Not to mention, I've trained a few people in my day and I've always been a good motivator and really tough on them. Talking to them during their reps, pushing them, encouraging them etc etc... These trainers are like "yea, go over there and do a set of 10 on the chest press machine, I'll be here talking on my cell phone...." wtf



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i won't buy anything or listen as well to anyone that isn't in shape. sure they might know their crap, but it just bugs me! if you truly know this and believe it and love doing this, WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU DO IT?


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I think it is a shame a lot of training companies, and gyms for that matter, are moving toward an emphasis on sales instead of results. They know the average person doesn't stick to the gym so they have to hit them hard up front and then just sort of see if they stick around. Its hard to argue that though its smart business.
However, I think if someone spends a couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars on training they get good training. which isn't just someone standing next to them ready to rescue them if they drop a weight on their head or something. Training should be instructional, motivational and really a positive experience.
many states have a ridiculous law that only the head trainer needs a certification, all the other trainers can be just some chumps off the street training "under" the head trainer.
Also the reason many of these training companies are represented by pretty sorry individuals is they pay NOTHING. Beyond fitness our local independant contractors to Golds pay $300 a month.. yes you heard right. then the rest is jsut commission. Any trainer worth ANYTHINg is going to tell them to stick it and find a more trainer friendly gym.
There are GOOD training programs though. Next Level Fitness in newport beach CA has a VERY VERY trainer friendly mentality. There is a $300 a month rent fee no ifs ands or buts then they take 20% of what you make UP TO $600. Which is more than reasonable as the average trainer is charging $150. My buddy who trains there currently has a 1 month waiting list and charges $175 an hour 8 hours a day. he makes an absolute KILLING out there.
But there is the opposite too. I trained in Park City a fairly upscale resort town at their premier gym up there. The gym had ungodly dues. There was no minimum to train there but there was no salary. But they took 75% of what you made u ntil you broke the 3500mo barrier then there was a sliding scale but they were unrealistic as even at 8500mo they took 45%...HOwever there was on trainer there... didn't know much about training or nutrition but he could motivate a nun into doing porn... and he made close to 10k a month i think on a regular basis. Super nice guy but he acted like he was on speed all thet ime bouncing around.. way too positive.


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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-31-2006, 02:52 PM
 
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Sounds like Golds gym. All of thier trainers look like shit! However, I asked Golds about that....... They told me that they hire a company that deals with personal training as a service to thier members. Golds told me that they do no endorse anything being taught.
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you should see the college graduate trainers here. it's such a joke. guys that look they never been in a gym but they have the degree so people pay them to get a program and such. if people would just find the hardest working/big mofo's in the gym and talk to them they would get a program for free and get good help. moer help then some fat kid who never did it in his life, but has a degree


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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 02-02-2006, 03:03 PM
 
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I agree, Its not rocket science!
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