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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 03-30-2006, 04:45 AM Thread Starter
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gakic?

anyone try this? Its supposed to be the sh*t. I dunno, it had better be decent for $60 for 128 pills. They want you to take 8 pills (huge) 45 mins before your workout. I only took 5 yesterday, and my heart was racing for a bit, I didn't really notice the immediate 10.5% increase in strength or increase fatigue resistance by 28%, but I guess we'll give it some time.
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 03-30-2006, 10:00 AM
 
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Keep us posted but thats too expensive for me. Thats almost 50lbs of chicken right thurrr!
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Nope, anything that is that expensive and you have to take so much of it at one time sounds like a hoax? Let us know!
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Never heard of it but let us know what you think.
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Nope, anything that is that expensive and you have to take so much of it at one time sounds like a hoax? Let us know!
read some of the info on the website, sounds pretty convincing. I've only used it on one workout, I'd like to use it for a few weeks to see if there is a noticeable trend.

About the expense....we all know the ReAL good stuff costs the most $$$


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read some of the info on the website, sounds pretty convincing. I've only used it on one workout, I'd like to use it for a few weeks to see if there is a noticeable trend.

About the expense....we all know the ReAL good stuff costs the most $$$
I guess you are right about that~ I will let you buy it and try it! :corn
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well
its been a week. I wont say that there has been a significant increase, but there has been some. It definitely "works" to some extent. Imagine working out by yourself, and you get to the 10th rep and know that you dont have what it takes to get 11 and 12, or you try to get 11 and cant, so you set the weight down. Well, with this stuff 11 and 12, and sometimes 13 are no problem. Its NOT mental, I know my body well enough that I know when i push through barriers that I normally wouldnt.

Granted, the difference isn't huge but it does make an impact. Today was chest again, and here is how it went:

set 1: 135 x 15 (good warm up)
stretch some more......
set 2: 225 x 15 (working out the kinks)
set 3: 275 x 7 (save some for later)
set 4: 315 x 5 (wow that felt good)
this is where i usually do another set of 315, and then blast 275 and 225 on the way down. But, I though why the heck not keep going up?
set 5: 335
I was concerned that it might be tough, but it went up almost as easily as 315 did
set 6: 350
This one I really wasn't sure about, but dizayum! It went up, without even stalling at the midpoint, I just slowed some...

I'll probably wait another month to try again but I think 365 is easily attainable. I've never pushed 400, but I think with another 4 to 6 months of work I can do it. I'll never push the 575 that Stone is pushing but oh well we all cant be like Faaaaaaaaaaabio....lol


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Kewl, In about another week or so.... hopefully it will kick in a little more! sounds good so far though!
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I hit 315 at my max weighing at 168 with XFactor. Ive heard alot about Gakic both good and bad; but its nice to see results from people that I know are real
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I'm not going to poo poo these results because if something works thats awesome but if you guys are looking for a simple supplement that staves off muscle fatigue caused chemical waste go to the grocer and get baking soda take 2tbsp before you workout its a good lactic acid buffer and if you want the same effect except stronger pottasium citrate is awesome however it is one of the foulest tasting substances I've ever tasted. Both are very cheap.
A friend of mine very versed in chemical warfare (tour de france 2x racer) got me into pottasium citrate for leg workouts.

Keep up the good work guys but I'll repeat again if you're getting these good results look to the foundation, your nutrition, to fill in any gaps and your results will be even better!!

Oh yeah and STRETCH!
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Knee dragger thats a pretty incredible chest workout. I would recommend fewer sets though. Especially if you're trying to get stronger I would try to limit the work done. Do a couple sets of 135 then maybe one set of 3-6 of 225 then go all out jump up to 385 and give it a whack. doing so much work is just beating your muscles into a pulp which will slow your recouperation time. There are two types of muscle growth sarcoplasmic (fluid), and myofibril (fiber) increased fluid between the fibers will only help a bodybuilder because it doesn't do much except look cool. The myofibril growth is what you really want. Myofibril (tissue) growth is generaly thought to occur mainly from the application of tension on the muscle and fluid growth is thought to occur when muscles are put under very large volumes of work (typical bodybuilder routine). So what you want to try to do is damage the muscle as much as you can as quickly as you can. If you just overload the muscle with tons of sets you're going to wear down your central nervous system because lifting heavy is very stressfull on your CNS and that takes a long time to recover.

SO sifting through all that BS i just fed you I believe you can stimulate the muscles enough to elicit the desired adaptive response with 2-3 warm up sets (this just depends on how you feel) and 2 good working sets. Hit that 265 I guarantee you'll get it if you go after it a little sooner. If I were working with you and saw you do the above workout we'd go right to 285 to just short of failure then another with 285 give or take 20lbs depending on how you feel.

and again I'll preach about food; Eating a proper meal immediatly after you train (I eat mine in the gym), and another 90 mins post workout will benefit you 5x more than any protein shake, supplement, pharmaceautical ever will.
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Yes, I agree 100% with the meal idea. But for me, it's just not realistic.
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Not realistic? Come on Mayo you can do it. Do like I do when I'm dieting smash a yam and banana up in a zip lock bag then put a few chicken breasts in another zip lock. WHen its time to eat just bite off a corner or the yam bag and squeeze it into your mouth like a pastry... thing. (what are those called?). And with the chicken just grab a breast pop open the bag and feed it through while youre driving. Not very smooth but it works.
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Not realistic? Come on Mayo you can do it. Do like I do when I'm dieting smash a yam and banana up in a zip lock bag then put a few chicken breasts in another zip lock. WHen its time to eat just bite off a corner or the yam bag and squeeze it into your mouth like a pastry... thing. (what are those called?). And with the chicken just grab a breast pop open the bag and feed it through while youre driving. Not very smooth but it works.



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Knee dragger thats a pretty incredible chest workout. I would recommend fewer sets though. Especially if you're trying to get stronger I would try to limit the work done. Do a couple sets of 135 then maybe one set of 3-6 of 225 then go all out jump up to 385 and give it a whack. doing so much work is just beating your muscles into a pulp which will slow your recouperation time. There are two types of muscle growth sarcoplasmic (fluid), and myofibril (fiber) increased fluid between the fibers will only help a bodybuilder because it doesn't do much except look cool. The myofibril growth is what you really want. Myofibril (tissue) growth is generaly thought to occur mainly from the application of tension on the muscle and fluid growth is thought to occur when muscles are put under very large volumes of work (typical bodybuilder routine). So what you want to try to do is damage the muscle as much as you can as quickly as you can. If you just overload the muscle with tons of sets you're going to wear down your central nervous system because lifting heavy is very stressfull on your CNS and that takes a long time to recover.

SO sifting through all that BS i just fed you I believe you can stimulate the muscles enough to elicit the desired adaptive response with 2-3 warm up sets (this just depends on how you feel) and 2 good working sets. Hit that 265 I guarantee you'll get it if you go after it a little sooner. If I were working with you and saw you do the above workout we'd go right to 285 to just short of failure then another with 285 give or take 20lbs depending on how you feel.

and again I'll preach about food; Eating a proper meal immediatly after you train (I eat mine in the gym), and another 90 mins post workout will benefit you 5x more than any protein shake, supplement, pharmaceautical ever will.
how did I miss this advice?? Thanks man, I'll give that a shot in the future. Not so much on beating up the muscles


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Yes, I agree 100% with the meal idea. But for me, it's just not realistic.
mayo stone is not shitting you. we will finish a race and as soon as he can pull his helmet of its like wham some more chicken breast in his mouth. haha
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mmmmm... brest in mouth.
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If it says MuscleTech on the label it's overpriced and probably worthless.
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If it says MuscleTech on the label it's overpriced and probably worthless.
that's a qualified statement if I ever read one. such generalizations have often proven to be correct


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