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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-24-2005, 10:37 AM Thread Starter
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We should take him out LOL Still means kill

Assassination comment criticized

Venezuelan officials irked at evangelist's 'call to terrorism'

KNIGHT RIDDER NEWS SERVICE and REUTERS

August 24, 2005

WASHINGTON – Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson caused heartburn in Washington and consternation in Latin America yesterday in calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez.

"I think we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war," Robertson said during Monday evening's broadcast of "The 700 Club," his Christian news-talk television show. "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability."


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It was hardly the first time that Robertson captured international attention with an eyebrow-raising comment.

His comments added new tension to the strained relationship between the United States and Venezuela, the nation's fourth-biggest supplier of foreign oil. The Venezuelan government expressed outrage.

Venezuelan officials said Robertson's remarks were "a call to terrorism," and demanded President Bush condemn his political ally and fellow Christian conservative.

The Bush administration scrambled to distance itself from the talk of assassination.

"Our department doesn't do that kind of thing. It's against the law," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack called Robertson's comments "inappropriate" and out of step with U.S. policy.

While administration officials might not agree with Robertson's proposed solution, they share at least some of his concerns about the Venezuelan leader. Chávez has become increasingly vocal in his criticism of the United States. He spent the weekend with his ally Fidel Castro in Cuba.

The two leaders teamed up for a six-hour television show that highlighted their mutual admiration. Chávez's anti-American views are particularly troubling to the White House because Venezuela supplies more than 10 percent of U.S. oil imports.

Robertson said Chávez should be killed to keep him from turning Venezuela into a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."

"We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some cover operative do the job and get it over with."

Chávez was first elected in 1998 and won a referendum on his rule last year. Polls show he will be re-elected in 2006.

In Caracas, Venezuelan Vice President José Vicente Rangel said, "This is a huge hypocrisy to maintain an anti-terrorist line and at the same time have such terrorist statements as these made by Christian preacher Pat Robertson coming from the same country."

The evangelist has a history of similarly startling statements.

He suggested that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks occurred because "we have insulted God at the highest level of our government." He once warned Orlando, Fla., that God might send hurricanes its way if Disney World continued to recognize gay-pride events. He has said feminism encourages women to kill their children and become lesbians. He said he considered liberal judges a more serious threat to America than "a few bearded terrorists who fly into buildings."

Last year, White House spokesman Scott McClellan denied Robertson's assertion that Bush told him that "we're not going to have any casualties" in Iraq.


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wow, didn't know he was that outspoken. and no we don't do assinations, but people do have accidents from time to time lol


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post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-24-2005, 10:48 AM Thread Starter
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Venezuelan leader Chávez was quoted as saying he wants to provide cheap gas to poor community's in the USA. Venezuela provides 1/4 of our oil and owns a chain of gas stations here. So his idea Is to cut out all the middle men which would than be able to offer gas for 50% less. Can you imagine what would happen if this was to occur? How many richer drivers would go out of there way to line up for cheap gas LOL. But lets face it we know the rich men In washington would never let us have cheap gas since most of them are oil enriched. :imwst


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that would be nice, but i agree with the statement that it won't happen. no way wil lthat be allowed to happen. such BS


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1. Venezuela provides gas in the same way that Africa does. Through a company that OWNS the rights they purchased from a corrupt dictator. Can't help it if your country was run by an immoral corrupt person.
2. Venezuela has no way to distill the oil it doesn't even pump from the ground. Thats called refining, and thats done in the USA, not venezuela as sending GASOLINE in a tanker is very risky and very bad for the gas as it is to volatile to survive the trip without significant loss of volume.
3. Venezuela has no way to SHIP the oil anywhere, nor can they affoard to buy any.
4. Pat Robertson DID NOT SAY to ASSASINATE anyone. He said he should be "taken out". This can be interpreted many ways, the media has elected to go with the worst case possibility.


This is nothing more than sensasionalism for the sake of it. If this had been said by any other idiot (and i count Robertson as an idiot) that was a liberal, like say a Harvard Professor, it wouldn't even be in the news.

Kinda like when a certain Univ of Colorado tenured Professor made some very interesting remarks regarding Sept 11, 2001......
Not too much was made of that now was it.....


the president of venezuela is saying things that he knows will get his name in the press, and he knows will never happen, but he can blame the failure on "Big Bad, Corporate America" without fear of the facts being "reported"
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Apology over kill Chavez TV call
A US TV evangelist has apologised for calling for US special forces to kill Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

Pat Robertson conceded that comments made on his widely-watched TV show amounted to a call for assassination.

On Monday, Pat Robertson said of Mr Chavez: "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability."

He said he had spoken in frustration, but stood by remarks saying Mr Chavez "makes common cause with terrorists".

In a statement on his website, Mr Robertson, who has a history of making inflammatory remarks, repeated criticisms of Mr Chavez, the twice-elected leftist president of Venezuela.

"Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologise for that statement," he said.

"I spoke in frustration that we should accommodate the man who thinks the US is out to kill him.

"Col Chavez has found common cause with terrorists such as the noted assassin Carlos the Jackal, has visited Iran reportedly to gain access to nuclear technology and has referred to Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro as his comrades," he added.

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On Monday, Mr Robertson told viewers of his TV show, the 700 Club, that the US should act on Mr Chavez's recurrent complaints that the US was allegedly trying to assassinate him.

Col Chavez has found common cause with terrorists... and has referred to Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro as his comrades
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"I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," he said.

He later argued that there were a number of possible meanings for the phrase "take him out", including kidnapping.

Mr Robertson's remarks come amid tense relations between the two countries.

President Chavez is a regular critic of the US, which regards Venezuela as a possible source of instability in the region.

He has accused the US of trying to topple his government.

A US State Department spokesman, Sean McCormack, has stressed that Mr Robertson's remarks do not reflect US policy.

"I would say that Pat Robertson is a private citizen and that his views do not represent the policy of the United States," he said on Tuesday.

'Not US policy'

On Monday, Mr Robertson said Mr Chavez posed a real threat to US interests in the region.

"We don't need another $200bn war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he said.

"It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

The comments were subsequently reported by the Associated Press and other media outlets, but on Wednesday Mr Robertson said the remarks were misconstrued.

"I didn't say 'assassination', I said our special forces could take him out. Take him out could be a number of things including kidnapping," he said.

"Any allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless," Mr McCormack said in response.

Venezuela is the fifth-largest oil exporter and a major supplier of oil to the United States.
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Published: 2005/08/25 10:12:46 GMT

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