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Fallacies of Distraction
False Dilemma: two choices are given when in fact there are three options
From Ignorance: because something is not known to be true, it is assumed to be false
Slippery Slope: a series of increasingly unacceptable consequences is drawn
Complex Question: two unrelated points are conjoined as a single proposition
Appeals to Motives in Place of Support
Appeal to Force: the reader is persuaded to agree by force
Appeal to Pity: the reader is persuaded to agree by sympathy
Consequences: the reader is warned of unacceptable consequences
Prejudicial Language: value or moral goodness is attached to believing the author
Popularity: a proposition is argued to be true because it is widely held to be true
Changing the Subject
Attacking the Person:
(1) the person's character is attacked
(2) the person's circumstances are noted
(3) the person does not practise what is preached
Appeal to Authority:
(1) the authority is not an expert in the field
(2) experts in the field disagree
(3) the authority was joking, drunk, or in some other way not being serious
Anonymous Authority: the authority in question is not named
Style Over Substance: the manner in which an argument (or arguer) is presented is felt to affect the truth of the conclusion
Inductive Fallacies
Hasty Generalization: the sample is too small to support an inductive generalization about a population
Unrepresentative Sample: the sample is unrepresentative of the sample as a whole
False Analogy: the two objects or events being compared are relevantly dissimilar
Slothful Induction: the conclusion of a strong inductive argument is denied despite the evidence to the contrary
Fallacy of Exclusion: evidence which would change the outcome of an inductive argument is excluded from consideration
Fallacies Involving Statistical Syllogisms
Accident: a generalization is applied when circumstances suggest that there should be an exception
Converse Accident : an exception is applied in circumstances where a generalization should apply
Causal Fallacies
Post Hoc: because one thing follows another, it is held to cause the other
Joint effect: one thing is held to cause another when in fact they are both the joint effects of an underlying cause
Insignificant: one thing is held to cause another, and it does, but it is insignificant compared to other causes of the effect
Wrong Direction: the direction between cause and effect is reversed
Complex Cause: the cause identified is only a part of the entire cause of the effect
Missing the Point
Begging the Question: the truth of the conclusion is assumed by the premises
Irrelevant Conclusion: an argument in defense of one conclusion instead proves a different conclusion
Straw Man: the author attacks an argument different from (and weaker than) the opposition's best argument
Fallacies of Ambiguity
Equivocation: the same term is used with two different meanings
Amphiboly: the structure of a sentence allows two different interpretations
Accent: the emphasis on a word or phrase suggests a meaning contrary to what the sentence actually says
Category Errors
Composition: because the attributes of the parts of a whole have a certain property, it is argued that the whole has that property
Division: because the whole has a certain property, it is argued that the parts have that property
Non Sequitur
Affirming the Consequent: any argument of the form: If A then B, B, therefore A
Denying the Antecedent: any argument of the form: If A then B, Not A, thus Not B
Inconsistency: asserting that contrary or contradictory statements are both true
Syllogistic Errors
Fallacy of Four Terms: a syllogism has four terms
Undistributed Middle: two separate categories are said to be connected because they share a common property
Illicit Major: the predicate of the conclusion talks about all of something, but the premises only mention some cases of the term in the predicate
Illicit Minor: the subject of the conclusion talks about all of something, but the premises only mention some cases of the term in the subject
Fallacy of Exclusive Premises: a syllogism has two negative premises
Fallacy of Drawing an Affirmative Conclusion From a Negative Premise: as the name implies
Existential Fallacy: a particular conclusion is drawn from universal premises
Fallacies of Explanation
Subverted Support (The phenomenon being explained doesn't exist)
Non-support (Evidence for the phenomenon being explained is biased)
Untestability (The theory which explains cannot be tested)
Limited Scope (The theory which explains can only explain one thing)
Limited Depth (The theory which explains does not appeal to underlying causes)
Fallacies of Definition
Too Broad (The definition includes items which should not be included)
Too Narrow (The definition does not include all the items which shouls be included)
Failure to Elucidate (The definition is more difficult to understand than the word or concept being defined)
Circular Definition (The definition includes the term being defined as a part of the definition)
Conflicting Conditions (The definition is self-contradictory)
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Author: gordon t davis joseph f and strountree
Why is a circle divided into 360 degrees?
From where did the name pi come?

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The ancient greeks decided (probably based on experiments: try using a cord
to estimate the circumference of some cylinders) that the perimeter of a
circle (and other symmetric objects) must be a constant multiple of its
diameter. A little later attempts were made to estimate the value of the
constant using the geometry of inscribed polygons. Much later, when
symbolism became more popular in mathematics, "pi" (the first letter in the
greek word for perimeter) started to gain acceptance for representing this
famous constant. Full details on how "they" get it are too long to type
here. Perhaps the earliest estimate for PI was 3. I believe that Archime-
des gets credit for using geometry to improve the estimate to 22/7. The
greeks at that time loved pure fractions and used nothing like our many
decimal representations. Your calculator shows that 22/7 is about 3.142856
or 3.14 rounded to 2 decimal places. Records show that an even better
estimate of 355/113 = 3.1415929 was known to ancient chinese mathemati-
cians. Using computers, estimates for Pi are now correctly known to
millions of decimal places. Look up Wallis' formula for more unusual ways
to write fractions, etc. to Pi.

The origins of 360 degree units around a circle are probably even older. In
Babylonia the number base of 60 was useful for representing fractions
because 60 is divisible by 1 through 6. For example, 1/12 is able to be
written as 0.5 since 5/60 equals 1/12. Could it be that 360 was used to get
even more nice fractional parts of the circle in whole degrees. I will
leave the answer to that for the more learned in the subject of history of
mathematics. Morris Kline's books would be a good place to start.

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Well, if your question is why it is called "pi", all I can say is the number
was known long before it was called that. According to "Mathematical
Thought from Ancient to Modern Times." The symbol pi was first used by
William Jones in 1706, but it does not explain why.

The reason the number 3.14159 . . . is interesting is because it crops up
in just about every area of mathematics. It was first recognized as the
irrational ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. Pi also
appears in all sorts of formulas involving series of numbers, for example
the sum of 1/1 + 1/4 + 1/9 + . . . + 1/n^2 +
or other similar sums of even inverse powers.


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Waves

Matter is made of waves.

The material universe is purely made out of aether.



A Wave Theory for matter and all forces.

Albert Einstein's second postulate says that the speed of light is the same for all inertial observers. This is totally false. From an absolute point of view, the light travels at a constant speed through aether, but any moving observer will be misled because of both the Lorentz transformation and the Doppler effect.

Aether exists. Matter is purely made out of electrons, which are spherical standing waves. Such waves do not disappear because aether is full of strong and constant waves incoming from all matter in the universe, which energy is transferred to electrons. Then this energy is radiated by electrons as spherical wavelets, and all forces work using such wavelets.

Because any wave exerts a radiation pressure, the result is motion. This motion involves the Doppler effect, so one should understand what is going on while a standing wave structure moves through aether. This leads to the Lorentz transformation.

This means that standing waves inside matter should obey the Lorentz transformation. Matter must contract on its displacement axis. It must slow down its evolution speed and a time shift will also occur.

Lorentz was right. Surprisingly, this leads to Relativity. Lorentz's Relativity.

The Postulates.

Most of the the following postulates were in my first book La Théorie de l'Absolu ( The theory of Absolute) in May 2000.




THE WAVE THEORY POSTULATES

Aether exists.

Electrons are spherical standing waves units capable of motion.

Each electron is amplified by incoming waves from all electrons in the Universe.

The speed of aether waves is constant and absolute.

All electrons at rest oscillate on the same constant frequency.

Matter is purely made out of electrons.

All forces are the result of genuine Huygens' spherical wavelets.

The radiation pressure is a repulsive force, and it is the only existing force.

The shade effect is an attractive force as a result of a radiation pressure from the opposite direction.

Motion is the result of the radiation pressure.

Matter mass is fixed with its waves energy.

The law of Constancy of physical phenomena as worded by Henri Poincaré is true.

Action and reaction wave forces are submitted to the Doppler effect and they are simultaneous.

Energy is the result of motion.

There is only one basic speed: the speed of aether waves, which is also the speed of light.

A Cartesian frame of reference is at rest inside aether and its coordinates are absolute.

Space and time values should be linked to the electron's constant frequency and wavelength.

Any Effect has a Cause and becomes a Cause acting at the speed of light by the means of waves.

Matter waves undergo the Lorentz Transformation.

Facts are absolute, hence Relativity is false.

The law of Relativity is true because it only describes appearances.

Gravity is the result of a slight deficit in the electrons' wavelets action because they are spherical.

The light is made of composite wavelets pulsed by electrons on a lower secondary frequency.



And now, let us take a closer look.






1 - AETHER

Descartes discovered aether (Aiqhr or Aither from Greek mythology) as a medium for light waves. However, aether proves to be much more important because all forces are transmitted by aether waves, and because matter itself is made of spherical standing waves.

Aether should be homogeneous and elastic in order to transmit lossless waves. Fresnel was wrong. The light waves do not oscillate transversally, so there is no need for a very special rigid medium capable of transmitting such waves.

Because there is no infinite, aether should take place inside a huge but still finite space. Because of its elasticity, il could also expand gradually. This could explain the expansion of the Universe.

The whole Universe is purely made out of aether. Nothing else. So the Wave Theory's first postulate should be:




Aether exists as a homogeneous and elastic substance inside a huge but finite space, and as a medium for waves responsible for matter and for all forces.




2 - ELECTRONS

Electrons are spherical standing waves systems which can move using the Doppler effect. Each unit is identical. It should be pointed out that it does not contain ingoing and outgoing waves. It is rather an oscillator. Some of its energy is still present inside a one meter radius sphere, but most of it certainly is effective inside an atom's area. Because nodes and antinodes appear two times per period, there are two possible spins for electrons. Positrons are identical and also permits two spins while vibrating in-between.

Electrons could have been created during a very long period. One can presume that many aether waves could seldom add themselves exactly at the same point, using Huygen's principle.




Electrons are spherical standing waves units capable of motion.




3 - THE AMPLIFICATION PROCESS

Any standing waves system usually very quickly radiates all of its energy. In order to be stable it must be fed with energy. The page on wave mechanics explains the amplification process by means of the lens effect.

This energy first came from waves which were already present inside aether. But now it comes from all the electrons of the whole Universe. Those waves contain huge quantities of energy, which is constantly recycled and returned to aether in all directions.




Each electron is amplified by incoming waves from all electrons in the Universe.




4 - THE SPEED OF LIGHT

It is a well-known fact that the speed of a wave propagating through any homogeneous medium is constant. Its frequency and its amplitude have no effect. There is no difference while they are crossing other waves either. Any moving observer certainly cannot measure this speed correctly because he encounters the Lorentz transformation. This explains why Relativity appears (but only appears) to be true.




The light and aether waves speed is constant and absolute.




5 - THE ELECTRON'S CONSTANT FREQUENCY

The electron spin can be explained because standing waves present nodes and antinodes two times per period. If so, the frequency for both spins must be the same, but it should slow down at high speed according to the Lorentz transformation. It should also be the same for positrons. Mechanically, any amplification process generates a trend towards higher frequencies, but because aether cannot be perfect it should have a limit. Moreover all electrons should adjust their frequency in the same neighborhood, explaining why there are no free positrons.

The resulting wavelength is incredibly small, certainly less then 10 ^ –18 meter. However, the electron's frequency must decrease while accelerating, in accordance with the Lorenz transformation.




All electrons at rest oscillate on the same constant frequency. However, the rate for moving electrons must slow down in accordance with the Lorentz transformation.




6 - THERE IS NOTHING BUT ELECTRONS

Any particle which is not an electron or a positron is made of several electrons or positrons. However, secondary standing wave systems always exist between them as a result of their waves' addition and amplification. This appears to be an electrostatic field, a magnetic field, or a much more intense gluonic field while they are very close from each other. Such gluonic fields are also matter, they may contain a lot of energy as a mass increase, but they still are electrons.




Matter is purely made out of electrons.




7 - HUYGENS' WAVELETS

The wave mechanics page explains the electrons amplification process as a lens effect. Electrons borrow energy from aether waves and constantly radiate it. This produces spherical wavelets, which are compressed or expanded according to the Doppler effect. Hence the Huygens' Principle appears to be true, but there is an important difference. The number of those wavelets is not infinite. The very small difference between an infinite and a finite number of wavelets can explain gravity. Those wavelets can explain light and its polarization, and they can also explain all forces.

Neutrinos do not exist. Photons do not exist. Maxwell's electromagnetic waves do not exist. The electrons' Quantum properties have been incorrectly transferred to light.




The light and all forces are the result of genuine Huygens' spherical wavelets emitted by electrons.




8 - THE RADIATION PRESSURE

Aether waves can exert a pressure on electrons. They can accelerate matter, decelerate it or change its direction. This phenomenon is explained on the page concerning wave mechanics.




The radiation pressure is the only existing force.




9 - MOTION

There is no attractive force. Any attraction effect is a component of forces in opposite direction. The radiation pressure is a repulsive force, and the result is motion.




Motion is the result of the radiation pressure.




10 - THE MASS-ENERGY EQUIVALENCE

The electron can move using the Doppler effect, and this produces a wave compression the same way a "subsonic bang" does.

The wave theory shows that kinetic energy can be explained by the means of active and reactive forces, according to the Doppler effect. The same calculation also shows how action and reaction works, and why matter mass must increase as Lorenz predicted.




Matter mass is fixed with its waves energy, and because motion produces wave compression in accordance with the Doppler effect, it also increases their energy, thus their mass.




11- THE SHADE EFFECT

The electrons absorb energy from the aether waves, and so waves coming from any opposite direction are stronger in comparison. This is the shade effect, an attractive force.

Usually electrons also radiate the same quantity or energy in all directions and the final result is null. However this is not the case any more while two of them are put together. Then the on-axis radiation is stronger and causes a repulsive effect. This means that the shade effect is then stronger for all transverse directions, and the result is an attractive force.




The shade effect causes the radiation pressure from opposite directions to be stronger, making it an attractive force.




12 - THE LAW OF ALL LAWS

The second main postulate from Einstein's theory of Relativity says that "all the laws of physics are the same in every inertial reference frame". This is fully true.

However this "law of all laws" is Henri Poincaré's discovery, and he also discovered Relativity. What should be called "the law of Constancy of physical phenomena" was worded by Poincaré himself in 1904:




The laws of physical phenomena are the same, whether for an observer fixed, or for an observer carried along in a uniform movement of translation, so that we have not or could not have any means of discerning whether or not we are carried along in such a motion.




13 - ACTION AND REACTION

According to Newton's third law, any action should be followed by an opposite reaction of equal force. This law appears to be false since the discovery of Relativity. Because waves are involved, the Doppler effect should be involved too. The reactive force is not always opposite either, but from any observer's point of view, it seems to be so.

Although forces such as gravity cannot act faster then the speed of light, they can still act in a simultaneous way. This is no longer true while a system is moving through aether, but is still works as if it was simultaneous because of the Lorentz transformation and because of Poincaré's "law of all laws" as worded above.




Action and reaction wave forces are submitted to the Doppler effect and they are simultaneous.




14 - ENERGY

The radiation pressure can accelerate or decelerate matter. Then the Doppler effect is increased or decreased, and matter waves energy also changes.

A very special case of energy is the gluonic field mass, which might be seen as "canned kinetic energy" because only very fast electrons and positrons can produce it and maintain it while they are "glued" together. A gluonic field is a sort of "wave spring" capable of accelerating particles. This phenomenon explains why energy can be extracted from radioactive elements fission or from a hydrogen to helium fusion.




Energy is the result of motion.




15 - ANY MOTION IS COMPOSITE

Any motion must be seen as a suite of zigzag or round trip displacements, which speed is always the same. Any other speed is composite in nature. Any speed faster than the speed of light is impossible.

Because aether exists, matter as standing waves really works according to the Lorentz transformation. This postulate explains why the electron frequency is decreased at high speed, and why distances on the displacement axis are shortened.




There is only one basic speed: the speed of light.




16 - THE CARTESIAN FRAME OF REFERENCE

Descartes discovered both aether and the frame of reference system known as the cartesian frame. From that very instant Galileo's Relativity principle should have been declared invalid. Such a "galilean inertial frame of reference" is incompatible with any motion using absolute values.

From a mechanical point of view, the Lorentz transformation was already foreseeable. It should be pointed out that Woldemar Voigt and Albert Michelson both found this incompatibility before Lorentz between 1885 and 1887.




A Cartesian frame of reference is at rest inside aether and its coordinates are absolute.




17 - SPACE AND TIME DO NOT TRANSFORM

Space and time do not transform because they do not really exist. As soon as this will be possible, they should be referenced to electrons at rest as a convention. For now, "at rest" means on Earth because of the law of Relativity, which is worded in Postulate No. 21.

Speaking about space contraction and time dilation is absurd. Speaking of gravity as a space curvature is delirious, especially while one does not explain how and why gravity can do that. In the future, this will certainly make scientists laugh a lot.




Space and time values should be linked to the electron's frequency and wavelength while it is at rest.




18 - THE CAUSALITY PRINCIPLE

The wave mechanics clearly indicates that any event causes new events.

A Cause may be seen as a motion, electrons being more or less compressed because of the Doppler effect. They radiate unusual wavelets adding or destroying themselves, and the result is a positive or negative force, which produces many Effects as a motion change all around. And so on. This means that any Effect becomes a Cause.




Any Effect has a Cause and becomes a Cause acting at the speed of light by the means of waves.




19 - THE LORENTZ TRANSFORMATION

Lorentz was right. Matter really transforms at high speed. This is one of the most fundamental laws in nature, and it should be called "Lorentz's first law" :




Matter is contracting itself on its displacement axis in the same manner as the standing waves which it is made of, because of the Doppler effect and accordance with its absolute speed through the aether, this contraction producing a time shift, an increase of its mass and a reduction of its evolution speed.




20 - FACTS ARE ABSOLUTE

Henri Poincaré and Albert Einstein were wrong. The Lorentz transformation indicated a Reciprocity, which leads to Relativity. However, one should beware of mathematics. All politicians can transform statistics, but scientists simply cannot transform time and space.

Aether cannot be verified, but it still exists. Any phenomenon should be evaluated as if it was at rest. Otherwise it will seem distorted. There is no true Reciprocity. There is no true Relativity.




Facts are absolute.




21 - THE LAW OF RELATIVITY

However Relativity proves to be a very useful, indeed essential tool in order to predict what will seem to happen. One should be aware that it is an illusion, but it still is what happens according to our senses.

Our world is highly Relative. Because it was Lorentz's idea first, it should be called Lorentzian Relativity. It usually appears to be the same as Einstein's, but it uses a different way to evaluate moving objects. So it sometimes predicts different effects and explains fairly well many phenomena such as the twin paradox and the Sagnac effect, for example.

Very few people could understand Einstein's Relativity. Lorentz's Relativity appears to be much more simple:




From its own point of view, any material body seems at rest and other entities only act, react and seem affected by the Lorentz transformation according to their apparent speed.




22 - GRAVITY

Gravity is only a very weak residual force compared to the huge quantities of energy involved inside matter. One should first consider that waves traveling through aether are mainly flat waves, for which radiation pressure is exerted in an optimal way. However, this is no longer the case for wavelets emitted by electrons. Those waves are spherical and cannot exert a maximum radiation pressure on the whole area containing an electron. A significant part of them is oriented under a certain angle. This can be evaluated using mathematics by means of Huygens' Principle. The differential calculus invented by Newton and Leibniz was solving this problem by the infinitely small, however a very simple computer program can evaluate a finite number of wavelets, and one can easily show that the result is not exactly the same.

Newton's formula works correctly but from this new point of view one can find a lot of anomalies. The G constant cannot be constant. Gravity do not use specific particles or waves. It is definitely important for celestial mechanics, but it certainly is not the "fundamental phenomenon" of the Universe.

The Sun's Gravity cannot bend light waves, but there are plenty of particles arount the Sun which can. A "General Relativity theory" for such a non-significant force is obsolete.




Because Huygens' Principle does not give the same results using a finite number of wavelets, a finite number of electrons explain Gravity as the result of a small deficit between the radiation pressure from curved waves on one hand, and on the other hand the shade effect involving flat waves containing exactly the same amount of energy.




23 - THE LIGHT

Light is made of spherical wavelets emitted all around by electrons, adding or destroying themselves according to Huygens' Principle. All radiations from radio waves to gamma are identical, being pulsated on a secondary lower frequency. This happens only while electrons are destabilized. Then they oscillate around their atom's core like a pendulum, and the light is polarized if they oscillate along a straight line. Radio waves occur while they move sideways inside any wire antenna.

Augustin Fresnel was wrong: light waves do not oscillate transversally. The wave diagram shows patterns which are alternately in phase, then in opposition of phase, and such zones do oscillate transversally. Electrons can react correctly because half of them are also in opposition of phase. When electrons oscillate along a circle there is no polarization, albeit it still can rotate clockwise or counterclockwise.

I know that nobody will believe it, but light is not stopped by matter. Matter as standing waves simply cannot stop progressive waves. However, the light can exert a pressure on half of the electrons according to their spin. So all electrons will finally radiate wavelets which will cancel the incoming light effects. This produces a shadow behind any massive objects. See the page on light for more details.

Heat, light or any radiation can expel one electron out of its normal atomic layer. Then it will come back or be replaced by another electron. This may induce a chemical reaction or an electric current. Our eyes, a photographic emulsion or an electronic device will detect light. Albert Einstein won a Nobel prize for this. However, such a detection cannot occur unless at least one electron is expelled, according to a constant threshold. Obviously, this threshold is a quantum. The light seems to work using quanta, but this behaviour is that of the electron instead. So, photons do not exist.




The light is made of spherical wavelets emitted all around by electrons, adding or destroying themselves in accordance with Huygens' Principle. Radio waves, light and higher frequency radiation are identical, being pulsated on a secondary lower frequency.


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