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Police scanner?

I'm looking to buy a police scanner for spirited rides:

Anyone have experience or could recomend a handheld scanner. I don't want to spend over 150 or so as I'll also need a radar detector with screamer.


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I have one I bought from Radio Shack, I think it was about 150-200.00 It works great and has a plugin for a headset also.... I can check the model number tonight if you want....



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I have one I bought from Radio Shack, I think it was about 150-200.00 It works great and has a plugin for a headset also.... I can check the model number tonight if you want....

Can you hear cell phones too?

Would be cool to know the cager you just passed called you in


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Can you hear cell phones too?

Would be cool to know the cager you just passed called you in
yes you can, but you have to scan that freq range to hear them as they are all within a certian range... and just random.... so you just scan untill you pick something up... I'll posts up tonight with the model number. I remember that when i bought mine, I had to watch and make sure it was the right freq range, some are only lower freq's.



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Why do you need a scanner with the detector?

Shouldn't the detector be enough?

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yes you can, but you have to scan that freq range to hear them as they are all within a certian range... and just random.... so you just scan untill you pick something up... I'll posts up tonight with the model number. I remember that when i bought mine, I had to watch and make sure it was the right freq range, some are only lower freq's.

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I read the specs on one model that seemed to say you could tune your favorites to say only look for police etc. Anyway I would want to set it to look for police only. Not interested in what the fire or caltrans says. Can you do that?


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I read the specs on one model that seemed to say you could tune your favorites to say only look for police etc. Anyway I would want to set it to look for police only. Not interested in what the fire or caltrans says. Can you do that?

Yes, you can program the one I have to do just about anything.... just have to read up on it.. lol



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yes you can, but you have to scan that freq range to hear them as they are all within a certian range... and just random.... so you just scan untill you pick something up... I'll posts up tonight with the model number. I remember that when i bought mine, I had to watch and make sure it was the right freq range, some are only lower freq's.
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Nothing like scanning through it and then picking up your friends conversation and giving him hell because he was talking to a fat chick. Yup buddy of mine got busted by me and some friends.
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Nothing like scanning through it and then picking up your friends conversation and giving him hell because he was talking to a fat chick. Yup buddy of mine got busted by me and some friends.

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You saw my BCT8, Adrian. That's a base unit from my car. Most of my tickets were received after dark w/o radar. During daylight I'm pretty good checking 360 degrees around and spotting pigs on onramps or merging freeways. Plus I have Valentine One.

The scanner detects about 70% of CHP cruisers/bikes not using their radar. I'm talking about 3-mile alert based on their handheld radios and mobile repeaters (visit freqofnature.com for more info). I wanted to buy a portable scanner for my bike, but none of them have that 3-mile alert I primarily rely on. Frankly I don't care about CHP conversations (unless I'm bored riding on the freeway). Another reason I was hesitant to invest into a second, portable scanner was the digital conversion that'll happen to CHP sooner or later (hopefully not so soon with the tight state budget). All local LE in OC is already on encrypted digital which makes sacnners obsolete. Though regular cops are no threat to me.

You can buy BCT8 ($170is) or other scanners at any HAM Radio Outlet store. BTW Uniden handheld scanners aren't any cheaper. BCT8 comes already preprogrammed for highway patrol frequencies so all you do is select your state. With the portable ones you'll have to go to Freqofnature and enter their frequencies.

I plan on adding the final piece of CHP protection this year: 11-99 membership.

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I've had a sportcat for years and love it. I haven't used it as much the past couple years, but at one time I kept up to date on all the frequencies....fire, police.....and yeah even cel phones (I used to listen for hours to peoples calls...LOL). I'm not sure about the newer scanners though. I'd heard several years ago that they were supposed to start putting blocking chips in them to keep them from being able to pick up the most common cel frequencies. And with most phones these days being digital instead of analog, I'm not sure how much you'd get anyways.

Here's a link to some info on the one I have. The model's a few years old now, but it's worked great for me. http://www.strongsignals.net/access/.../rr_sc150.html


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Here are the specs on the one I have

In the specs, it says "except cellular band" I know I have picked some of them up in the past, so I'm nit too sure why it says this?

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PRO-94 1000-Channel Handheld Trunking Scanner
(200-0524) Features Faxback Doc. # 57982

Your RadioShack PRO-94 1000-Channel Handheld Trunking Scanner is one of a
new generation of scanners designed to track Motorola Type I, Type II,
hybrid analog systems, (such as Smartnet and Privacy Plus) plus GE/
Ericsson EDACS. Those systems are extensively used in many 800 MHz,
900 MHz, and UHF communication systems.

Trunking communications systems let a large group of 2-way radio users (or
even different groups of 2-way radio users) efficiently use a set of
frequencies. Instead of selecting a specific frequency for a transmission,
the user simply selects a talk group. The trunking system automatically
transmits the call on the first available frequency, and also sends (on a
different frequency called a Data channel) a code that uniquely identifies
that transmission.

Since the trunking system might send a call and its response on different
frequencies, it is difficult to listen to trunked communications using a
regular scanner. The Pro-94 lets you select and monitor the data channel
frequency sent with a 2-way radio transmission, so you can hear the call
and response for that user and more easily "follow" the conversation.

The scanner also lets you scan conventional transmissions, and it is
preprogrammed with service banks for convenience. By pressing a single
button, you can quickly search those frequencies most commonly used by
public service and other agencies, without tedious and complicated
programming.

This scanner gives you direct access to over 37,000 exciting frequencies,
including police and fire departments, ambulance services, and amateur
radio services, and you can change your selection at any time.

Your scanner also has these special features:

Triple-Conversion Circuitry - virtually eliminates any interference from
IF (intermediate frequency) images, so you
hear only the selected frequency.

20 Channel-Storage Banks - you can store up to 50 channels in each of
10 different banks, in two separate groups,
for a total of 1000 channels, so you can
more easily identify calls.

Five Scan Lists - you can store up to 50 trunking talk group
IDs in each trunk scanning bank.

NWR-SAME Circuitry - lets you listen to coded weather emergency
information using Specific Area Message
Encoding.

Two-Second Scan Delay - delays scanning for about 2 seconds before
moving to another channel, so you can hear
more replies that are made on the same
channel.

Lock-Out Function - lets you set your scanner to skip over
specified channels or frequencies when
scanning or searching, and skip over talk
group IDs when tracking trunked systems.

Priority Channels - lets you program one channel in each bank
(20 in all) and then have the scanner check
that channel every 2 seconds while it scans
the bank, so you don't miss transmissions on
those channels.

Five Service Banks - frequencies are preset in separate police
(fire/emergency), aircraft, ham, marine, and
weather banks, to make it easy to locate
specific types of calls.

Hypersearch - lets you set the scanner to search at up to
300 steps per second in frequency bands with
5 kHz steps, compared to the normal search
speed of 100 steps per second.

Hyperscan - the scanner automatically scans up to 50
channels per second to help you quickly find
interesting broadcasts.

Key Lock - lets you lock the scanner's keys to help
prevent accidental changes to the scanner's
programming.

Data Signal Skip - lets you set the scanner to skip non
modulated or data signals (such as fax or
modem transmissions) during searches. This
lets the scanner avoid non-voice signals,
making a search faster.

Disconnect Tone Detect - the scanner automatically tunes to the
trunking data channel when it receives a
disconnect transmission. You can turn this
off, so you can continuously monitor a
channel with a weak transmission where
conversations are often disconnected.

Manual Access - lets you directly access any channel.

Liquid-Crystal Display - makes it easy to view and change programming
information.

Display Backlight - makes the scanner easy to read in low-light
situations.

Flexible Antenna with BNC - provides adequate reception in strong signal
Connector areas and is designed to help prevent
antenna breakage. Or, you can connect an
external antenna for better reception.

Monitor Memories - lets you temporarily store up to 10
frequencies or talk group IDs.

Memory Backup - keeps the frequencies stored in memory for
an extended time if the PRO-94 loses power.

Three Power Options - lets you power the scanner using internal
batteries, external AC power using an
optional AC adapter/charger, or DC power
using an optional DC cigarette-lighter power
cable.

Key Confirmation Tones - the scanner sounds a tone when you perform
an operation correctly, and an error tone if
you make an error.

Battery Save - saves battery power when the scanner does
not detect any transmissions for more than 5
seconds when a channel is manually selected.

Battery Low Alert - warns you when battery power gets low.

Weather Alert Indicator - your scanner also functions as a severe
weather alert monitor.

Your scanner can receive these bands:

Frequency Step
Range (MHz) (kHz) Transmission

29-29.7 5 10-Meter Ham Band

29.7-50 5 VHF Lo Band

50-54 5 6-Meter Ham Band

108-136.9750 12.5 Aircraft Band

137-144 5 Military Land Mobile

144-148 5 2-Meter Ham Band

148-174 5 VHF Hi Band

216-224.9950 5 1-Meter Ham Band

406-420 12.5 Federal Government

420-450 12.5 70-cm Ham Band

450-470 12.5 UHF Standard Band

470-512 12.5 UHF "T" Band

806-956 12.5 Public Service "800" Band,
except cellular band

1240-1300 12.5 25-cm Ham Band

FCC Notice

Your scanner might cause radio or TV interference even when it is
operating properly. To determine whether your scanner is causing the
interference turn off your scanner. If the interference goes away, your
scanner is causing it. Try the following methods to eliminate the
interference:

Move your scanner away from the receiver.

Connect your scanner to an outlet that is on a different electrical
circuit from the receiver.

Contact your local RadioShack store for help.

Note: Mobile use of this scanner is unlawful or requires a permit in some
areas. Check the laws in your area.

Scanning Legally

Your scanner covers frequencies used by many different groups including
police and fire departments, ambulance services, government agencies,
private companies, amateur radio services, military operations, pager
services, and wireline (telephone and telegraph) service providers. It is
legal to listen to almost every transmission your scanner can receive.
However, there are some transmissions you should never intentionally
listen to. These include:

Telephone conversations (cellular, cordless, or other private
means of telephone signal transmission.)
Pager transmissions.

Any scrambled or encrypted transmissions.

According to the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), as amended,
you are subject to fines and possible imprisonment for intentionally
listening to, using, or divulging the contents of such a transmission
unless you have the consent of a party to the communication (unless such
activity is otherwise illegal).

This scanner is designed to present reception of illegal transmissions, in
compliance with the law, which requires that scanners be manufactured in
such a way as to not be easily modifiable to pick up those transmissions.
Do not open your scanner's case to make any modifications that could allow
it to pick up transmissions that it is not legal to listen to. Doing so
could subject you to legal penalties.

We encourage responsible, legal scanner use.

(BR EB 12/8/99)



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FYI CHP doesn't use trunking and it's a PITA to setup anyway. You have to enter trunking frequencies and other data for every trunking susbsystem which varies from city to city. I did it once for Culver City just as an exercise. IMO CHP will go from good old analog communication straight to encrypted digital, so don't waste your money on analog trunking scanners.

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Thanks everone for the info

Looks like handheld scanners won't do what i need it to.

Alex that one you have is to big..what I like about riding is not having to wear a backpack or tankbag. Of course I don't like tickets but you did say when you were down here there was nobody talking. I think you said you did not get any chatter until Julian.

I did find this handheld which seemed good but from what have been saying its not really going to fit my needs.

http://www.uniden.com/productpop/00_...rd_code=BC246T

http://www.police-scanner.info/polic...e-scanners.htm


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Looks like handheld scanners won't do what i need it to.

Alex that one you have is to big..what I like about riding is not having to wear a backpack or tankbag. Of course I don't like tickets but you did say when you were down here there was nobody talking. I think you said you did not get any chatter until Julian.

I did find this handheld which seemed good but from what have been saying its not really going to fit my needs.

http://www.uniden.com/productpop/00_...rd_code=BC246T

http://www.police-scanner.info/polic...e-scanners.htm

not sure what you are trying to do, but the one I have works great for picking up calls from all the local and state PD, CHP etc....

Hell, I just now heard a call from a guy who said he saw a drunk driver at the local 7-11 around the corner.... within 3 minutes the local pd was there and arrested the guy... lol

I was familiar with the code after getting a dui when I was 21...

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not sure what you are trying to do, but the one I have works great for picking up calls from all the local and state PD, CHP etc....

Hell, I just now heard a call from a guy who said he saw a drunk driver at the local 7-11 around the corner.... within 3 minutes the local pd was there and arrested the guy... lol

I was familiar with the code after getting a dui when I was 21...

23152A btw... lmao

My goal is not to get anymore tickets and was hoping riding with a scanner would help me know where the cops are and when some cager calls me in to them

So would your work well while riding?


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If you had a big enough jacket pocket and some headphones... I'm sure it would work fine.... but it's not that easy to follow what they are saying..... You have to listen carefully as they have a ton of little codes to say things without saying them... I suppose it would work after you got the lingo down..........



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