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If that is real....OMG!!!!

100 miles on 4oz of water!!!

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I've seen stuff like this before, so far it's always turned out to be a sham, but hey, if it's legit it'll change everything.

that said, you can go ahead and throw me on the "I doubt it" bandwagon.

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There was a video on CNN yesterday about this stuff. A guy converted his vehicle to turn water to hydrogen and run on it.. Didn't get a chance to watch the whole thing..
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one problem.....


where does the electricity come from.......


oh yeah......


fossil fuels.....


oops.



oh. and its a net loss reaction, meaning it takes more power to generate than it produces.


but then again, so was ethanol until the last 6 years.......
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need more info before passing it off as hoax though.

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here's a link http://www.atsnn.com/article/158213

And there are lot's more witha Google search....

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google h20 2000


and the website looks like something a 2 year old put together......
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google h20 2000


and the website looks like something a 2 year old put together......
Try HHO.

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bogus

and look at the site... bunch of idiot consperacy retards
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electrolysis is a power loss conversion
regardless.

you cant change that.

Thats one of the reason water is such a stable element
It is basic high school chemistry.

stable items take more energy to seperate tahn non-stable.

now, what you do with it after that is entirely up to you.
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Well, I wasn't going to hold my breadth, but I was crossing my fingers......

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The Most Exciting Scientific Discoveries of the Century

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Fire From Water! Yes it is true and known for quite a while that water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen and can be easily separated into it's components. Which when recombined releases a TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY. Controlling it is the key. We've all heard stories about running cars on water...well that is just one of the many applications Professor Yul Brown's discovery makes available. Brown's Gas Welder is now in production and with the consumers support other applications will be available.
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SCAM

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Any company with something this big would be publicly traded so they would be set for life not this little piss ass website they have to steal money from people

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Water is not a fuel, it can be a source material to create an inefficient fuel, the gas HHO - which is the fuel and NOT water. Water is to the gas HHO what ash is to wood. Dennis Lee does a scam to make people think water can be used to power things - it can't , water is the waste product. Gases are dangerous and hard to store and hard to compress - they do not do an efficient job of temporarily storing energy. The best way to use water to store energy is to pump it to an uphill storage tank - that way only has about an 20% energy loss compared with typical total 70- 90% loss rates of using electrical power to separate water into gas, and then harnessing the energy available by burning it.
now if they just setup with these guys we would be set! http://www.theaircar.com/

They could use like cokecola and have a turbo powered bulletmobile

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May 23 on CNN.com

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Yep, thats the one I saw ....
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ummm, the most efficient way to store energy in water is to heat it up, if you have a well insulated container you'll get 95+% efficiency

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ummm, the most efficient way to store energy in water is to heat it up, if you have a well insulated container you'll get 95+% efficiency
nno its not....

because again, it's a net loss reaction.

you add 10 degrees of heat, you can keep 9.5 degrees....

therefore you've lost energy.


the most efficient way to store energy in water is not to.

but rather harness the energy already in it in the form of potential energy converted to kinetic energy.....

hence the reason for hydroelectric power.....


or you can extract heat that is already in it from the earth.....

or move it from one tepmerature place to another, as in a ground source heat pump....
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ya hydroelectric and geothermal are obviosly the best way to get power out of water, but you can't reverse the reaction with any kind of efficiency.

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