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No Degree Required: Certificate Programs for In-Demand Jobs



Online certificate programs offer learners new routes toward rewarding careers. For established professionals, certificates offer a practical means for strengthening the degrees they've already earned without taking on the hefty commitment of an additional full-blown degree program. And, for the career changer, certificates establish a foundation to break into new, lucrative lines of work without emptying their pockets to get there.


Here are eight popular certificate programs that can ignite
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1. Information Technology Security. According to MATRIX Resources, one of the nation's top IT staffing firms, managers are putting security and data recovery at the top of their priority lists. Though most IT fields saw a pay increase of 3.1 percent in 2006, those demanding the hottest skill sets -- with security at the top of the list -- saw increases of up to 4-5 percent.
2. Paralegal. There are approximately 600 paralegal educational programs available, and about 250 are approved by the American Bar Association. The National Association of Legal Assistants reports an above-average expected growth rate for the profession through 2010 at 33 percent.
3. Digital and Graphic Design. Beginning designers and career-changers are finding that the focused curriculum of certificate programs actually has incredibly broad design applications including entertainment, publishing, and media fields. According to Mary Domowicz, an acting associate director at New York University's School of Continued Professional Studies, enrollment in the school's design certificate programs has doubled in the past year.
4. Nursing Management. Nurses who aspire to supervisory roles can use certificate courses to apply credits to their degree and develop skill sets that include understanding the basics of health care organizations and administration; analyzing and managing data in health care systems; and applying the techniques of personnel management. There are about 126,000 unfilled nursing positions in U.S. hospitals -- a number expected to grow to 400,000 by 2020 -- says the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations.
5. Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA). A launching pad of sorts, Cisco's CCNA certification is an introductory-level certification that is a prerequisite for higher-level certifications for working with networking and communications technology. Certification Magazine recently quoted the average salary for a Cisco certified IT professional as $59,550 a year. An average CCNA makes $9,967 more than before earning the certification.
6. Homeland Security. Certificate programs that originated from the military and National Guard are now attracting learners in private business and municipal government. The U.S. Department of Labor has been predicting that the employment of security management personnel will grow faster than all other occupations due to the threat of terrorism. Trends demonstrate increased demand for employees with knowledge of investigative services, surveillance systems, and risk management training.
7. Forensic Nursing. With nursing careers in demand, many RNs are boosting their credentials with specialization certificates. Forensic nursing coursework educates students on evidence collection, preservation, and documentation related to crime, acts of violence, mass casualty incidents, sexual assaults and human abuse. Beyond hospitals, local institutions like rape crisis centers and prosecutors' offices contribute funding to support this training.
8. Executive Coaching. In 2002 the Harvard Business School Journal indicated that employers are willing to pay from $1,500 to $15,000 a day for executive coaching. Leading schools like Penn State's Smeal College of Business, which added two new certificates to its executive education offerings this past year, are addressing this growing field. With applicability in any business setting -- corporations, nonprofit organizations, and government -- executive coaching certificates provide the chance to increase earning power.


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I would think that you need some sort of degree in order to put those certified programs to use. How are you going to coach an executive without a degree?

Also, I know to be in nursing management you'd better have your (minimum) RN and most likely your BSN, both are degrees.

Bottom line, you can't get something for nothing...


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Degree's are a piece of paper..... and they are a ticket in the door at some places if you have no experience.

That's all.

To be honest the people working for me that have degree's are the lower end of the team.

I'm sure this is not the case everywhere..... but in my experience it is.



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How are you going to coach an executive without a degree?
i know of at least 40 people that get paid $400/hour to do exactly that.

the company i'm most familiar with is called Growth Dynamics, and most of their employees that are the actual coaches do not have degrees.

and most of the Cisco certifications will get you much further in that area than any degree you can come out of college with.

Same with MS certs, Linux (red hat) certs, etc.
Most real computer orgs do not care if you have a degree, and many would rather you didnt if you have the experience and certifications to show it.
that way they do not have to "un-train" you.


There are many jobs out there that are seriously high paying and do not require any kind of degree.

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There are many jobs out there that are seriously high paying and do not require any kind of degree.


I agree but how do you find the schools that specialize in certificates to a particular field? I gained a strong airline background about 10 years ago and went to a tech school specializing in just avaition and was on top of the ladder when it all came crashing down in 01. Been trying to find a new field ever since and never really have had the time to go to a full time school.


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Degree's are a piece of paper..... and they are a ticket in the door at some places if you have no experience.

That's all.

To be honest the people working for me that have degree's are the lower end of the team.

I'm sure this is not the case everywhere..... but in my experience it is.

Exactly, it is not a cure all, it does come down to THE PERSON, not the degree. However, there are many jobs where you can't even apply without one, other jobs where it doesn't matter.


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There are many jobs out there that are seriously high paying and do not require any kind of degree.

And there are probably 10 times as many that do require a degree (advanced degrees at that).

It's all about learning, and how can you excel in something if you don't learn how to do it? Otherwise, why would we have engineering schools, medical schools....

I'm a big believer that a degree (for most of us) is nothing more than proving you can do something that is a pain in the ass for 4 or more years.

There will always be self made people, billionaires that didn't finish the 3rd grade, but from an overall perspective, there IS value in that piece of paper

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For full-time, year-round workers, the 40-year synthetic earnings estimates are about $1.0 million (in 1999 dollars) for high school dropouts, while completing high school would increase earnings by another quarter-million dollars (to $1.2 million). People who attended some college (but did not earn a degree) might expect work-life earnings of about $1.5 million, and slightly more for people with associates degrees ($1.6 million). Over a work-life, individuals who have a bachelor’s degree would earn on average $2.1 million — about onethird more than workers who did not finish college, and nearly twice as much as workers with only a high school diploma. A master’s degree holder tops a bachelor’s degree holder at $2.5 million. Doctoral ($3.4 million) and professional degree holders ($4.4 million) do even better.
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In 1999, average annual earnings ranged from $18,900 for high school dropouts to $25,900 for high school graduates, $45,400 for college graduates and $99,300 for the holders of professional degrees (medical doctors, dentists, veterinarians and lawyers).
Again, all that said, it IS up to the individual person to make it happen.


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if you take the half of the population that doesn't want to work anyway out of those stats they will look much different...



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i think they have brainwashed society into believing they need it. i mean seriously why would 99% of people need advanced math? or science, humanities etc. obviously an engineer would need the math but i dont. humanities? what a bunch of shit, i have heard the arguments saying it makes an individual better rounded. again what a bunch of shit. it doesnt help me at all in my field.
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I'm a big believer that a degree (for most of us) is nothing more than proving you can do something that is a pain in the ass for 4 or more years.
That is the key right there.... and 90% of what a degree is all about. Companies like people who can commit to something and stick with it... a degree mean this for some people.

As for the degree meaning you can do a job because you have a degree in it... that's the error here, most of the time what you learn in school is so basic or outdated by the time you hit the workforce, you will still need to learn the job as you go.



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