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About bloody time if it does happen. I reckon I can count on both hands, close calls and accidents caused by idiots on bicycles who ride without a bloody clue.

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Bikes may be added to Vic driving laws

Changes to include bicycles in legislation covering death by dangerous driving could be introduced in a simple amendment to existing laws, Victorian police say.
Cyclists are currently exempt from potentially facing certain traffic charges because they are only deemed to be riding a vehicle and not driving a motor vehicle, Assistant Commissioner Noel Ashb y said on Thursday.

His comments come after cyclist William Raisin-Shaw was fined $400 after admitting running a red light during one of Melbourne's notorious Hell Rides last year.
James Gould, 77, died after stepping from the kerb into the path of a pack of cyclists who had run a red light.
There were no charges laid over Mr Gould's death.
Magistrate Charlie Rozencwajg admitted Wednesday's fine was "pathetic" but noted that Raisin-Shaw, 31, had been charged only with disobeying a traffic signal, not over the pensioner's death.
"I don't think anyone could have envisaged the circumstances of the Hell Ride, the tragedy that they could have caused," Mr Ashby told Southern Cross Broadcasting.
"On a bike, a person is deemed to be riding a vehicle and not driving a motor vehicle.
"If you are driving a motor vehicle, there is a range of other provisions that are available where we could proceed that actually create a far more serious offence."
Mr Ashby said it was an anomalous situation but the paperwork for legislative changes would not have to be extensive.
"I think it would be a simple amendment to include vehicles as well as motor vehicles. It would simply be expanding the definition to include all vehicles. There might be reasons why we can't, but I think it really does need to be looked at.
"This is the first time in dealing with bikes.
"Vehicles that now intentionally run through a red light and drive in circumstances that are clearly dangerous and someone dies or someone is seriously injured are covered and that's why there's a little bit of an anomaly here but it's one that simply wasn't foreseen."


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e'hem! I don't think y'all should paint all cyclists with that big brush you got there.
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all cyclists are fucking morons

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Over here in the states bikes are treated as cars for the most part, and it SUCKS. Driving in a lane for CARS is stupid. I was traveling through town and there were two lanes going my direction. The speed limit is like 45, and some moronic cyclist thinks he needs to use the righthand lane because he can. So, cars who are doing 45 to 55 have to slam on the brakes and try to merge, causing more danger because his slow ass is in the way. idiots....


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e'hem! I don't think y'all should paint all cyclists with that big brush you got there.
e'hem yourself, Not all cyclists are idiots, if you want to class yourself as an idiot cyclist, than I will paint you with a big f'ing brush. I ride a mountain bike but I'm not going to put myself in harms way on a thoroughfare or lead to causing an accident.


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damn cyclists should have to register and pay road tax if they are going to use it..



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damn cyclists should have to register and pay road tax if they are going to use it..
Completely agree with you on that.

But, if we are going to do so, we should get infrastructure, bike lanes and what have you.

But, yes, we should pay some kind of Rego. Would Drivers attitudes change if we paid rego and riders still rode in the lanes? I don't ride on the road until I get into the City CBD, because there, I move faster than the cars.
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