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thoughts on illegal immigration

do you guys have huge problems with this where you live? here in salt lake it has become a huge problem and crime rates are soaring because of it. just curious about other areas
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yes- lock the borders fuck em. at least the one to the south.



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its been stated that each illegal immigrant will cost taxpayers one million dollars over their lifetime. It never fails to amaze me how the overwhelming voice of the people want it to stop and our elected government is dragging its heals year after year.
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Pisses me off.... Millions of illegal immigrants come into the US and get the "let's legalize these poor people" treatment and then go straight to wellfare, and my parents who want to retire in the US and spend their hard earned money there get the news that they can only stay 6 months a year in the new house they built there (supporting the US economy in a major way BTW) ???

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Yes for sure Alex, it's fooked up the way it is right now.... the sad thing like maccattack mentioned, it's not the people who are making it the way it is.



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easy, it's illegal...act like it's illegal! We are harder on someone stealing out of a store than we are for someone illegally coming into the country. Doesn't make sense. Good thing terrorists don't have border runners teach them how to enter the country.


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they do it now. hell they have a school to teach hadjis how to look and act hispanic so they can fit in
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obviously it is a problem we cannot control, but we are also supporting.....how many Americans do you know that will go out and pick vegetables all day for $3 an hour? How many will work in facotries in terrible conditions for minimum wage? They are working the jobs we don't want, and WE TOLERATE it. it is a double standard


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obviously it is a problem we cannot control, but we are also supporting.....how many Americans do you know that will go out and pick vegetables all day for $3 an hour? How many will work in facotries in terrible conditions for minimum wage? They are working the jobs we don't want, and WE TOLERATE it. it is a double standard
you are right. maybe if we cut out most of the welfare type programs people would work to eat or they would die stealing. i dont want to work those jobs.
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you are right. maybe if we cut out most of the welfare type programs people would work to eat or they would die stealing. i dont want to work those jobs.
Exactly, why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? Why get a job when you can have kids and live off of taxpayer money? Why get medical insurance when you can just go to a hospital (where you can't be turned away) and rack up a 50,000 bill that you and I will pay?

Ah.......no time to worry about that now, what with all the global warming, Iraq war, 2/3 of America overweight issue, gas prices, bridge collapses, over litigious society we have, dog fighting rings, Britney Spears and Posh Spice, American Idol and the inflation.......

There is one simple answer though, right R1Nomad? Impeach Bush and everything corrects itself


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Hey those fuckers are taking my jobs

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Bush wants them here as do his buddies in big business


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Bush wants them here as do his buddies in big business

I have a question. If people think they are the "little guy" and "the man" is holding them down, then wouldn't it only be natural to aspire to be "the man?"

why complain about being picked on when you can make your way to the top and avoid that hassle?


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Pisses me off.... Millions of illegal immigrants come into the US and get the "let's legalize these poor people" treatment and then go straight to wellfare, and my parents who want to retire in the US and spend their hard earned money there get the news that they can only stay 6 months a year in the new house they built there (supporting the US economy in a major way BTW) ???

Sucks.
That still pisses me off when I think about that. Your folks are great people...law abiding, tax paying...and including them purchasing their house have contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to the US economy. Yet the "Government" gives them a hard time about being here. But if someone jumps of a boat and sets foot on land illegally, not only are they allowed to stay but they're handed cash and told "Welcome to the US - Feel free to take advantage of us". The double standard pisses me off. We have cubans hitting the beaches here by the boat loads and they know damn well all they have to do is touch dry land and they're home free.


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That still pisses me off when I think about that. Your folks are great people...law abiding, tax paying...and including them purchasing their house have contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to the US economy. Yet the "Government" gives them a hard time about being here. But if someone jumps of a boat and sets foot on land illegally, not only are they allowed to stay but they're handed cash and told "Welcome to the US - Feel free to take advantage of us". The double standard pisses me off. We have cubans hitting the beaches here by the boat loads and they know damn well all they have to do is touch dry land and they're home free.
thats bullshit
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If you want to really stop it the solution is EASY. If a businessman hires someone that is illegal and he didn't take precautions to ensure he was a citizen then slap them with a 50k fine and make the business go to court to prove they didn't know and couldn't have known.

Then let the military patrol the borders and let anyone running INTO the country get a bullet in the back if he doesn't stop on command.

Also why send them back when we catch them? I say put them in jail for 3 years so they can't make money or send it anywhere. sure we would pay to jail them, but it wouldnt' take long before they realized it's not worth the risk then we woudln't have to jail that many.

Politicians won't do it though because they want the hispanic vote...it's a shame.


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very nice corey. here recently 2 illegal mexicans went into a 1 chair beauty shop owned and operated by a 24 year old chicana american female and gut shot her. they left without getting a dime. she had a customer in the chair and her 7 and 12 year old little brother and sister there also.. on a local news website if you say anything about illegal immigration you get dogged like you are a racist. i still do it but fuck these fuckers are stupid with the whole"they just want to have a better life" thing.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=1646846

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if you want a better life i completely understand, but do it legally. Look at what happened to dog the bounty hunter who went into mexico and got a low life scumbag rapist? No other country in the world is this easy on ILLEGAL immigrants. I just don't get it.


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me either but i wish we would stop it
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They're a drain on the economy because no income taxes are being withheld. No SS tax, not Medicare tax. I'm not saying we should make them citizens, but if they are gonna be here they should pay the same taxes I do...

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Here's my input. If you want to be in this country, get a green card. Get a job. And you can stay. If your over here just to kidnap our women and steal our cars, go F your mother.

But AZ is INFESTED with illegals right now. White people are definitely the minority here.
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