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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-12-2008, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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250gp qualifying resullts.

to help you guys make your contest picks.
1. Simoncelli (Gilera)
2. Bautista (Aprilia) +0.297secs
3. Pasini (Aprilia) +0.396secs
4. Kallio (KTM) +0.515secs
5. Takahashi (Honda) +0.806secs
6. Aoyama (KTM) +0.971secs
7. Debon (Aprilia) +1.023secs
8. Luthi (Aprilia) +1.099secs
9. Barbera (Aprilia) +1.113secs
10. Faubel (Aprilia) +1.213secs

Last year Bautista won by 4 seconds over Dovisioso, 6 over Lorenzo.Luthi and Barbera where fighting it out for 4th, 13 seconds back, but they finished strongly. Simoncelli came home 7th.

it's also worth note that Takahashi and Kallio crashed out last year, might well do better this year.

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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-13-2008, 12:03 AM
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It is really hard to predict what will happen in the 250 class. Simonchelli has been looking really strong but with his severe crashing habit it is hard to have him as favourite but Bautista has let me down twice so far so....


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ya I'm with ya, Bati seems to have forgotten how to pick a f*cking tire. Kallio is hit and miss at best, Simoncelli is a crasher, Luthi is.... just there, never winning, always just there in the background somewhere.

Pasini seems to have figured out how to not grenade his gearboxes tho.

Takahashi? kind of an unknown quantity in my eyes... I dunno.

KTM seem to be improving, but it's still an Aprilia class.

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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-13-2008, 09:31 AM
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A picture of the new aprilia RSA 250 engine.

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I'm so surprised that they're still sticking with the disc valves. They're definitely making it work tho I guess.

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I'm so surprised that they're still sticking with the disc valves. They're definitely making it work tho I guess.
Yes. But they have move it. On the new place they get the benefit from the best of bouth disc valves and reed valves. And also the engine is smaller so the frame is also smaller now. The only bad thing is that there is problem to get the disc valve working 100% now that its angled to the crank.

This is the first picture I found on how the disc valves is placed on this RSA engeines.
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yea it's gotta be on a worm gear. I don't see them getting the midrange snap that the reeds have, but for a roadrace engine that's not "at the traction limit." that doesn't matter all that much. Any decent 250 rider will have it always in the pipe anyhow.

I'm just surprised they're still using it 20 years after the rest of the industry wrote it off as old fashioned is all. Kinda like GM sticking with pushrod, internal cams on the LS7. Different, old fashioned, but f*cking effective.

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